This to me btw somewhat contradicts The Courage to be Disliked concept (ht @webdevMason via @pmarca)
I have a few thoughts on this, more later.https://twitter.com/TheAnnaGat/status/1102671585935269894 …
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Replying to @TheAnnaGat @pmarca
The fine art market is just as incentive-driven as everything else & its incentives are very, very weird. Fame is the key mechanism by which your assets appreciate. Taste-makers pick the winners. Not surprising at all that beyond some baseline level of talent, the network is king
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Replying to @webdevMason @pmarca
Agreed. Spent many years in the creative industries then left when I realised whatever I do it will always be about politics, gatekeepers, subjective judgement & I need better. Wanted objective measures! Yet I still wonder if we're wrong to say what we do isn't about the friends?
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Replying to @TheAnnaGat @pmarca
Just not sure how this relates to The Courage to be Disliked, or what you mean by "what we do"/"about the friends"
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fwiw friendships between high-impact humans are super interesting — recently reading about the Lunar Society, the US Founding Fathers, the Paypal Mafia, etc.
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Replying to @webdevMason @pmarca
Yeah
I'm mostly familiar with such groups in science so if you have recs, would love to read!
But re: article how much do you see that apply in more objective fields ~ science/tech?
@barabasi your next project maybe?
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Replying to @TheAnnaGat @webdevMason and
the junto club is another interesting one to read up about, started by ben franklin. iirc, it had 12 members and lasted about 40 years. they created the first public (lending) library, first volunteer fire dept, university of pennsylvania, + pennsylvania hospital, amongst others
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Replying to @LamaAlRajih @TheAnnaGat and
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they met up weekly, and i bet it would've been cool to sit in on one of their meetingshttps://twitter.com/LamaAlRajih/status/1099665972150054912?s=20 …
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Replying to @LamaAlRajih @webdevMason and
Thanks! Yet the question to me remains is it an illusion to think in more "objective" fields one's success is less influenced by who they're friends with or not.
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Vectors in every possible direction between talent, network, and success. You're more likely to catch the interest of talented/successful people if you're talented, you're more likely to develop your talents in the context of a successful friend group, etc.
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Replying to @webdevMason @LamaAlRajih and
Yes, and that's beautiful!! Yet what the article / research found was that having more friends (social skills?) counted more than creativity / talent. To me this is super interesting - and would love to know to what degree this is only true in subjective fields like art.
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Replying to @TheAnnaGat @LamaAlRajih and
That isn’t what it found, though? The nodes were all successful artists. It’s not clear that the most famous had more friends in general, just that they had more connections to other successful artists & more *groups* of successful artists (delineated geographically)
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