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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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      Funny, because when you asserted your far superior understanding of “the value of academic publishing,” I was actually expecting a defense of that and not of literally all research.

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    2. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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      The argument I'm making is essentially: research is important, publishing facilitates research, so publishing is important. There are other ways to facilitate it, too, but publishing is a big one.

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    3. youtube.com/visakanv ( ❤️ if you subscribe!)‏ @visakanv 1 Mar 2019
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      I eagerly followed this conversation hoping for something more substantial than this. I’m pretty sure any person who seriously cares about dismantling the publishing-industrial complex, cares in part because they recognize that research is important & should be accessible to all

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    4. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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      I did go into greater detail, but the thread fractured into several pieces. I agree research is important, but the discussion was about publications of research. Anyone can post their manuscript online, but that doesn't necessarily make it accessible.

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    5. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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      The concept of common pool resources is a useful framework here. The knowledge itself is a common good that is neither rivalrous nor excludable, but access to facilities, publishing venues, and grants is very much rivalrous.

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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      Is it? Publishers aren’t financially enabling research. They’re providing the service of controlling its distribution, maintaining institutional exclusivity over respected work, & kingmaking scholars who play the game. Who’s actually funding the work?

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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      Let’s be clear: taxpayers & students fund the research that happens at universities. Peer review is generally provided by volunteers funded the same way. Journals aggregate & sell researchers’ work back to their own taxpayer-funded institutions.

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    8. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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      It’s insane that journals publishing publicly-funded work are able to price the public out of ever seeing it. IMO this likely has 2 prereqs: (a) universities are highly price-insensitive; (b) universities benefit from limiting expertise in the public domain.

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    9. Stuart Buck‏ @stuartbuck1 1 Mar 2019
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      I hear what you're saying Mason, but I also think that 99% of people wouldn't understand 99% of scholarship. That includes me: I don't understand most articles in biology, math, physics, etc., even as someone who was well into the 99.9th percentile on standardized tests.

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    10. youtube.com/visakanv ( ❤️ if you subscribe!)‏ @visakanv 1 Mar 2019
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      The wild thing about the Internet is that 1%, or even 0.1%, is a Lot Of People And those people can then make the content even more accessible for everyone else

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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      My guess is that it’s much greater than 1%, but even if it’s 0.01% — how is it not obviously the correct thing for the research the community has funded to be made freely available to it? These are not just intellectual toys for resume-building children & the blessed legacy youth

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        2. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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          In prior tweets from you, I haven't seen the level of ad hominem I'm seeing here. My DMs are open if there are things you want to say, but not publicly.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 1 Mar 2019
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          What are you talking about?

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        2. Cow Tongue‏ @cowtung 1 Mar 2019
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          Also, how is it not obviously correct for the government to get a piece of all the revenue generated from the products/patents made possible by government funded research?

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        3. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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          Universities (R1s, at least) get quite a bit from the intellectual property of the researchers at their institutions through the process of tech transfer: http://www.milkeninstitute.org/publications/view/856 …

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        1. mrgunn‏ @mrgunn 1 Mar 2019
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          This is only the obvious correct thing if you don't distinguish between the research itself (the experimental data, the analysis, etc) and the description of it as a research article.

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