I am not questioning the value of scientific research. I am questioning the value of a system that limits access to publicly-funded research to a tiny few, incentivizes positive results + overstated conclusions, & appears to be producing less notable work at an increasing cost
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So there's a both a tremendous amount and not enough being done to address publication bias & that's a whole separate thread, but I do want to point out that there's a difference between research and the publication thereof. That's what I was getting at
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mrgunn @mrgunnReplying to @mrgunn @webdevMasonPublishing is a way to keep the signal to noise ratio high, ensure ethical standards are adhered to, raw data & code are made available, and that the papers use relatively readable language. I always feel like the role of the editor is overlooked in these discussions.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
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Funny, because when you asserted your far superior understanding of “the value of academic publishing,” I was actually expecting a defense of that and not of literally all research.
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The argument I'm making is essentially: research is important, publishing facilitates research, so publishing is important. There are other ways to facilitate it, too, but publishing is a big one.
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I eagerly followed this conversation hoping for something more substantial than this. I’m pretty sure any person who seriously cares about dismantling the publishing-industrial complex, cares in part because they recognize that research is important & should be accessible to all
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I did go into greater detail, but the thread fractured into several pieces. I agree research is important, but the discussion was about publications of research. Anyone can post their manuscript online, but that doesn't necessarily make it accessible.
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The concept of common pool resources is a useful framework here. The knowledge itself is a common good that is neither rivalrous nor excludable, but access to facilities, publishing venues, and grants is very much rivalrous.
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Is it? Publishers aren’t financially enabling research. They’re providing the service of controlling its distribution, maintaining institutional exclusivity over respected work, & kingmaking scholars who play the game. Who’s actually funding the work?
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Let’s be clear: taxpayers & students fund the research that happens at universities. Peer review is generally provided by volunteers funded the same way. Journals aggregate & sell researchers’ work back to their own taxpayer-funded institutions.
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It’s insane that journals publishing publicly-funded work are able to price the public out of ever seeing it. IMO this likely has 2 prereqs: (a) universities are highly price-insensitive; (b) universities benefit from limiting expertise in the public domain.
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This is probably the most concise takedown of the industry, which explicitly makes its profits by limiting the spread of new research to institutions that themselves generate income by credentialing presumably hard-to-obtain expertise. Nothing about this is controversial.pic.twitter.com/EKQc65tl2e
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Reality has a surprising amount of detail (1), a thread. Funders, researchers, publishers, & universities are interdependent. People say they hate the subscription model, but rank open access 8/10 in their list of priorities. 1. http://johnsalvatier.org/blog/2017/reality-has-a-surprising-amount-of-detail …
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Funders, the biggest of which get budget allocated from the government, fund research. They need to allocate their funds to the people who will do the best work, but they can't know that apriori, so they tend to rely on experts.
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