I agree and love this take (great answer to Peter’s fave question btw) but why older men? Shouldn’t this apply to both men and women? If I had to do it again, I would have had kids at 18 or 22.
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Replying to @birsic @ImpCapital
I assume the idea is that it's preferable for the man to have time to develop a stable medium- to high-income career so the household won't necessarily be inexorably dependent on two full-time incomes But I think there are a lot of good reasons for men to have kids younger, too
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Replying to @webdevMason @ImpCapital
FWIW, there is a roughly 0.1% chance I’d marry someone that young when in my late 20s or early 30s. The mismatch in life experience and maturity would make it extremely difficult to find someone who plays the true partner role. Also, tbh, it would feel quite pedophile-y to me.
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Replying to @birsic @ImpCapital
You should definitely not marry anyone you're not attracted to, but with all due respect: individuals are not fungible. 18-year-olds are not children and not all of them behave as though they are. Your preferences don't imply facts about other human beings.
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Replying to @webdevMason @ImpCapital
With all due respect, there is precisely zero I said that suggests I’m extrapolating beyond my own feelings on this. I deliberately framed the tweet to convey that sentiment. If I failed okay but I think suggesting I was generalizing is a step further than my comment deserves.
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Replying to @birsic @ImpCapital
In general, phrases like "pedophile-y," "murder-y," "rape-y" etc. tend to be just a little bit loaded
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Replying to @webdevMason @ImpCapital
Serious question: What sensitivities should I have in mind when conveying my own reactions to hypothetical situations which inherently shouldn’t be offensive to anyone in particular? I miss things often so if I’m missing something here I’d like to know. But I don’t get this.
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Replying to @birsic @ImpCapital
If I said to you, "no offense, but what you did there felt rape-y to me," you'd likely be concerned: the implication of a consent violation is unavoidable. When you say "it'd feel quite pedophile-y," the clear implication is that you're dealing with the equivalent of a child.
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Replying to @webdevMason @ImpCapital
I see your point. Thanks for making it. You’re sticking up for the capability of an 18 yr old to do whatever they like as a rational adult. I dig that. I guess what I’m trying to convey is that from the shoes of a 35 year old man, a data point of one, it just feels wrong.
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Which is totally fine, of course — not everyone wants to or should date someone much older or younger than they are. The question, IMO, is whether society could be more tolerant of relationships between adults with large age gaps & a bit less assuming about the dynamics involved
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Replying to @webdevMason @ImpCapital
Interesting. Certainly not an issue I’ve thought a lot about. I do probably make too many assumptions about those relationships. A good reminder. Thanks.
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I think I was seeing this through the lens of the older man, and was honestly confused that speaking up against creepy old dudes wasn’t better received, but what I didn’t see enough was speaking against an 18 yr old woman’s options being whatever the hell she wants them to be
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