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I expect there’s a feedback loop between culture & typical experiences that constrains the kinds of thinking that are (in a very real sense) possible at all. One way to look at “tribe”/shared reality/social cohesion is as an emergent property of people who *cannot* deviate much
I don’t think it’s coincidental that so many people who think or do interesting things are both smart & super weird socially. They have socially cohesive memes, too, but they tend to deal with the object-level stuff much less
Okay so totally yes. And also, there might be a level of empathy that can act as padding for socially divergent / new communication / culture w.e. - the more empathy you have, the easier it is to make sense of and understand behavior you don’t personally exhibit
You might like CGP Grey's video on meme spread "This video will make you angry" (It didn't make me angry) https://youtu.be/rE3j_RHkqJc
Perhaps a powerful cohesive bit, in that "tribe" :) of weirdos — is that they all fundamentally appreciate their friends' nonconformity/deviation, knowledge, funny perspectives — the genuine surprise hiding playfully around each corner
what do you mean by “object-level”?
Sometimes I think there are failure modes that can arise from giving this point too much importance, even if it is mostly true. 1) "Weirdness" becomes a type of social signal, but is lacking in information content. 2) Insularity tends to form around these behavior clusters.
We're much better at detecting outliers than we are at detecting whatever the "true" desired signal is. The problem is that outliers are, by definition, much more separated from each other than anything else, making this type of signal extremely high variance.
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