IMO this can be consistent w the above; just that "hacking my brain's reward system" lacks explanatory power for anything interesting & people don't seem to notice. "I feel a daily compulsion to hug my boyfriend first thing when I get home. He's hacked my brain's reward system."
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Julia Galef Retweeted Geoffrey Miller
Ah ok, then maybe my disagreement is just with
@primalpoly's model of what causes people's self-reported addiction to Twitter (that I thought you were endorsing), which doesn't fully match my experiencehttps://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1092064394920349697 …Julia Galef added,
Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpolyYou're not 'addicted to Twitter'. You're not 'addicted to the dopamine hits from Twitter', whatever that's supposed to mean. You're addicted to the quirky, maddening characters you follow on Twitter, & the culture wars they're fighting, & the hilarity that ensues.2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes -
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My read: in any instance where you can say "my brain's reward system has been hacked," you are making choices to meet some need or desire (effectively or ineffectively). People may point to the neurochemical layer when they're uncomfortable w/ the need or ashamed of their choices
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In the same way that "my brain's reward system has been hacked" is both arguably true & a pretty useless frame for why one might feel a real compulsion to hug their partner on sight, it's an arguably true & pretty useless frame for why one might eat sugar, go for a run, or tweet
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Replying to @webdevMason @primalpoly
Oh, maybe we do disagree; I don't think the "my brain's reward system has been hacked" framing is useless at all when it comes to Twitter. Noticing the structural features of Twitter that make it so addictive to me was useful in reducing my overconsumption of it.
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Okay, but: "I don't think the 'my brain's reward system has been hacked' framing is useless at all when it comes to my boyfriend. Noticing the structural features of my boyfriend hat make him so addictive to me was useful in reducing my tendency to tackle-hug him at the door."
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Isn't this a criticism of short explanations in general? "hacked" is pointing to a more complex model; as with any short phrase, you can stop thinking when you hear it or let it guide your attention to the features it's highlighting and evaluate the applicability of that frame.
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"I hug my boyfriend because I love him", say, is also leaving out a lot of crucial details and may serve to stop further thinking if you think this is a sufficient explanation. But that seems to be inevitably true for all one-sentence explanations of complex phenomena.
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I suspect that the difference between you is that
@juliagalef associates the phrase with some particular model which she finds useful in this context, while@webdevMason associates it with a wrong/no model. The handle being the same for both hides it pointing to different things.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
This is part of it. The other part is that people think they know what "hacked my brain's reward system" means, but for virtually all of them it just points to "I keep wanting to do a thing I shouldn't want to do."
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"Love" is shorthand, but it points to an actual experience. Insofar as "dopamine was triggered in brain" points to anything the speaker knows/has experienced, it's obscured rather than clarified in the same way that "he triggers oxytocin release" does little for discussing love.
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