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    1. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 28 Jan 2019
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      Liquidity may be a bigger problem for other assets, but can't the IRS just take 3% of the the thing on paper, and collect the $ whenever it's sold? I feel like some creativity to accommodate this new kind of tax should be able to make it practical in most cases.

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    2. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 28 Jan 2019
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      I can well believe that wealth taxes have bad incentive effects, as do other taxes on capital and labour income, but haven't heard a clear argument that they're worse than the alternatives, at appropriately low rates.

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    3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Bezos can keep his job & still find himself newly beholden to more conservative interests with less personal skin in the game. I think this matters — where would SpaceX be? If you're not taking the tax until a sale, it's just a worse capital gains tax that disincentivizes risk.

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    4. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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      Usually I also like concentrated ownership of companies, as groups who have a lot of their $ in a company have the greatest incentive to pay attention and manage it well. That said,

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    5. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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      i) Do we have any evidence on whether companies actually do much better when founder/CEOs retain control for many years? I could also see them being worse in various ways and boards being right when they remove them (e.g. skills to run big corp are different than to start one).

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    6. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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      ii) I can think of lots of founders who are still running the show while owning well under 50% of the company - Bezos, the google guys, Zuckerberg, Tesla/SpaceX, Dell (at least he took it back). How strong is the evidence other tech investors really are too risk averse?

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    7. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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      If other investors really are too risk averse why are they keeping these founders around? We could also do a carve-out if this mattered a lot where founders can sign over dividends and capital gains on 3% of their equity each year while retaining voting rights on the shares.

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    8. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      (1) Boards are typically so hesitant to oust founders that it's hard to know what conclusions you can draw from those cases. Softer power shifts are very tough to look at. Successful VCs are very pro-founder. Maybe the entire system is wrong, but it's not a test I wanna run live.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      (2) Tech investors are WONDERFULLY *not* averse to risk. It's made them, along with their founders, extremely wealthy. Which means they are also subject to a 3% tax on everything they own, which is mostly... portfolios of tech companies.

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      What happens to all the founder/investor stock that *only* very successful owners have to sell off? Maybe their funds buy more of it back. Maybe VC compensation shifts rapidly from stock to income, further eroding skin in the game. Maybe less successful investors snap it up.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      (3) There usually aren't dividends. Capital gains isn't a thing until stock is sold. You *could* transfer an increasing ownership stake in virtually every highly successful business to the federal government, but obviously DON'T DO THAT.

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        1. Nathaniel Bechhofer  🌐‏ @bechhof 30 Jan 2019
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          @MattBruenig says that’s ok

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        2. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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          As long as they just auction off the stocks or do mirror voting seems like that would be fine? Agree we don't want active management by the IRS.

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        3. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 30 Jan 2019
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          Actually having the IRS take 3% of the company on paper and just hold onto it and mirror vote solves your problem as everyone's votes are diluted equally!

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