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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @Elixir_Beats @ESYudkowsky @PointlessSpike

      Solving FizzBuzz. This is what programmers do. They are not syntax-translators, they are problem-solvers.

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @Elixir_Beats @ESYudkowsky @PointlessSpike

      Given a few hours & Google access, some people who've never written a line of code in their lives will be able to figure out how to solve FizzBuzz, and some will not. If you just *tell* them how to do it & they write the code, they've become a syntax-translator, not a programmer.

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @Elixir_Beats @ESYudkowsky @PointlessSpike

      I would predict the ones with high interest.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @Elixir_Beats @ESYudkowsky @PointlessSpike

      Desire/curiosity & competence form an incredible feedback loop, but I don't think it's fair to ascertain from that that anyone can learn to code. For one thing, it makes it very easy to say to yourself that anyone you failed to teach effectively simply didn't care enough.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 30 Jan 2019
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      Replying to @Elixir_Beats @ESYudkowsky @PointlessSpike

      Maybe you’ve never held someone through their tears who’d sunk everything into a coding program, had been through several months of full-time instruction, had stayed late with the instructors at every opportunity, and just *couldn’t get it* like everyone else. I have. They exist.

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        2. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 4 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @Elixir_Beats and

          I wonder if people who say "anyone can learn to code" would say the same about all endeavors & all people? eg, would they say "Any 12 yr old can learn to prove the same mathematical theorems that a mathematician can, as long as the 12 yr old really wants to & puts in the effort"?

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        3. José Luis Ricón Fernández de la Puente‏ @ArtirKel 4 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason and

          Probably not. Coding sounds easy and indeed 'coding' in the sense of plumbing together for loops,if statements and function calls can be learned in an afternoon.But from there to actually -coding- there is a massive gap that may take months or years. Maths doesn't feel like that

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        2. Patrick Ryan, Muse of Tyrants, and Crimes Johnson‏ @emblem21CEO 5 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @Elixir_Beats and

          I got a D in high school AP C++. I was a landscaper with illegals shortly after that. My daughter was in poverty and the dot com bubble popped. I still learned to code. Self-appointed "journalists" are not the hill to die on.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 5 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @emblem21CEO @Elixir_Beats and

          Nothing about getting a poor grade in a high school class would imply to me that someone couldn't learn any particular thing or excel in some field. That's perhaps the worst proxy ever, akin to using your performance on a game show occurring in your own dreams to gauge aptitude

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        2. Carlos De la Guardia‏ @dela3499 4 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @Elixir_Beats and

          That's a tragic pedagogical - not neurological - problem. There are prerequisites to learning anything, and, in this case, nobody guessed the missing prerequisite or how to teach it. Perhaps it's never been taught explicitly, and nobody who's learned it knows how they did so.

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 4 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @dela3499 @Elixir_Beats and

          Sure, that's as reasonable a take as any. I don't think we even have a very good understanding of what that skill is, much less how some people come to have it. I'm definitely not claiming ability is an innate/immutable thing, just that *currently* not everyone can learn to code

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        2. Eliezer Steinbock‏ @elie2222 4 Feb 2019
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          Several months is rather short no?

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          I have been a programmer for almost 40 years, but now that i know not everyone can do it, I suspect that I am one of the people who can’t.

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        2. Wimpiethe3‏ @Nurgle37 5 Feb 2019
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          Replying to @webdevMason @Elixir_Beats and

          Just like some people will never be able to read/write at an advanced level. Or at all for that matter. Same for following simple instructions. Intelligence has persobal limits, it is what it is.

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        3. Wimpiethe3‏ @Nurgle37 5 Feb 2019
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          My fat fingers do too it seems....

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