hang out with kids and get a new perspective on why stuff doesn't get done — 80%+ of the time, nobody thinks they're being avoidant; whatever remains to be done has yet to be explicitly approved, is better left undone than "wrong," seems to have an undoable next step
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i would affirm that to have been mostly true for my experience as well. i was good at improvising when called on, so not so much terror re: that. but terror re: teachers asking about homework i definitely hadn't done
kids are *always* trying to balance the goals of satisfying adult expectations + maintaining their social position amongst the other kids; in some peer groups, the optimal strategy is to keep teacher expectations low + avoid looking like a nerd — very hard to break that dynamic
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The best is when a teacher can encourage nerdiness — turning that productive, engaged, thoughtful disposition into a social currency. It ain't easy
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yup, I had a couple of teachers like this. they know their material well, genuinely find it interesting and exciting themselves, and have enough social skill to really challenge kids without coming across as needy. complex skillset requiring knowledge + charisma. leadership
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imo, even in "good" schools, where all the game's points can be scored by giving "good" answers, the game is Make Teacher Praise Me, not Think Interesting Thoughts & Get Useful Feedback — I think the latter is a game that you just can't play within the parameters of most schools
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this is a criticism I have of friends who are Ivy League educated, in mid-30s and realizing they don't know what they like I did have a glimpse of the latter in my "Knowledge and Inquiry" class in JC. was basically philosophy geekery; I loved it. we could criticize school itselfpic.twitter.com/7Sx9QuAxEv
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As a teacher, can confirm. A good way out is to not have low expectations from any student -- they rise up to what you hold them up to.
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I like that. Since reading these ideas yesterday, I’ve been able to look through a different lense teaching both tennis and robotics. Different groups, activities, and other dynamics. Social standing is definitely on their radar — in complex and varying ways. Interesting!
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"kids are *always* trying to balance the goals of satisfying adult expectations + maintaining their social position amongst the other kids; " I think if anything is new, its how much this accurately describes 'adult' behavior as well
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This is the reason I did better in college than I did in high school. It was bc I lacked a peer group and liked the professors.
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