Singal is a piece of shit, though, so it's deserved.
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Replying to @nexidava_ @webdevMason
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@webdevMason, but I think the point might be that the social norm of "be specific about WHY you're denouncing someone" is useful so that third parties can distinguish between true and false "piece of shit" accusations?1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @zackmdavis @webdevMason
I don't disagree that it's useful to provide reasons, but it's not like people haven't already spent a lot of time and effort telling Singal how wrong he is in public places for others to see. The marginal return on investment for more discussions with him is likely small.
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The comments Singal responded to starting by accusing him (quite rightly) of transphobia, so anyone that really cares that much should be able to google "Jesse Singal transphobia" and find enough information to inform their opinions from there. (e.g. https://www.them.us/story/cis-media-trans-reporters-trans-issues …)
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Replying to @nexidava_ @zackmdavis
I would encourage everyone to read and/or listen to Jesse's work, especially if you're going to read criticisms of it that reference very little of the actual content: → https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/ … → https://quillette.com/2019/01/11/quillette-podcast-10-jesse-singal-talks-about-the-reaction-to-his-controversial-atlantic-story-on-transgender-adolescents/ … Draw your own conclusions.
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Replying to @webdevMason @zackmdavis
Mason, are you trans? Is Singal trans? I'm not saying that every accusation of transphobia by a trans person against a cis person is justified, but I think you owe trans people a bit more than "spend half an hour listening to him" to back up your opinions.
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Replying to @nexidava_ @zackmdavis
Wow — I do actually think that if you're going to develop an opinion on someone's perspective, you ought to spend *at least* half an hour familiarizing yourself with what they have actually said. Is this... is this not obvious?
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Replying to @webdevMason @zackmdavis
Mason, I've read his article. I've read numerous critiques of his article and prior and subsequent positions by people who pay more attention to him than myself. I dislike audio as a medium for serious information transfer, since it is much harder to follow and refer back to.
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Replying to @nexidava_ @zackmdavis
Great. I invite everyone reading this to do the same — read the original article and the prominent criticisms, and draw their own conclusions.
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Replying to @webdevMason @zackmdavis
Okay, so what were your conclusions, then? Justify to me why you think his work doesn't constitute transphobia, and why it has a net-positive impact. You share his content. You defend him. You aren't just drawing conclusions, you're propagating his.
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I thought the piece was well-reasoned, well-researched, and fair. The criticisms I saw seemed to rely on assumptions that weren't present in the text or on extremely misleading paraphrasing. I don't think anyone should take my word for it. I think they should read the source.
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