PT is critiqued for a category of things he either doesn't refute or explicitly participates in. Therefore, analogizing RH's functional error to PT's body of work pretty clearly confuses the conversation. "PT would not get the same treatment" isn't interesting because PT != RH.
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Replying to @Sherveen @kimmaicutler and
The question is actually much simpler than you're making it out to be here.
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Replying to @webdevMason @kimmaicutler and
How so? Simply stating that doesn't make it true. PT, again, is critiqued for held/expressed beliefs. What happened with Reid is something he's apologized for. Regardless of your belief as to whether RH deserves further on this issue, these are pretty clearly distinct things.
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Replying to @Sherveen @webdevMason and
Let's go back to Mike's tweet, I don't think he was asking "why is RH not generally more critiqued, like PT?" Because the answer is clearly substantive -- more people find PT objectionable. I think Mike was asking the better question: "Disinfo is bad -- are we watching for this?"
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Replying to @Sherveen @kimmaicutler and
I don't think we've got quite the same lens on this (or that you've got a good sense of what mine is), but I think I agree with the bottom line, here. "How would I feel if it were the other side?" isn't meant to equivocate; it's a thought experiment to dispel some degree of bias.
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Replying to @webdevMason @Sherveen and
So when I run that thought experiment about what if it was Peter, I find myself stopping at him writing a public apology for decisions that turned out poorly. Does he do that?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @Sherveen and
The apology doesn't matter much. IMO, two things matter here: (1) what was known and intended — and I'm very inclined to err on the side of believing RH, and (2) what actually occurred: in this case, a pretty blatant manipulation of a critical democratic process.
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Replying to @webdevMason @kimmaicutler and
I don't think RH needs to be scapegoated. At all. But we really, really need to be able to talk about what happened here, because holy shit.
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Replying to @webdevMason @Sherveen and
So in a rule of law society where the rule of law applies equally to everyone regardless of their political beliefs, what would you design systemically to prevent an outcome like this that holds Reid accountable to his promise to review all his political investments?
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Replying to @kimmaicutler @webdevMason and
Is this, say, something that should be a crime like a campaign finance law crime or something else?
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I honestly don't know. IMO, we have a fuzzy sense of how political argumentation and persuasion pre-election should work — one that doesn't include sock puppet orgs & bot nets — but we need to admit that we're broadly unprepared for the tech-enabled reality. Lots of convo needed
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Replying to @webdevMason @kimmaicutler and
And yet, this is the only conversation happening, which is the point. This should be covered more broadly.
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