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    1. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      Counterpoint: banning white supremacists who spread conspiracies about liberals and (((Globalists))) being involved in child sex trafficking is good, actually? Other than the bans from the platform a week ago, did I miss something?

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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      The particular principle here seems to be “decide your terms, then enforce them apolitically,” which I personally agree is critical. (I’m not yet confident that they are or aren’t doing this, but I’d be concerned if I were funded through them.)pic.twitter.com/0T8n4OHbFB

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    3. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      I don't know if it's possible to enforce these sort of things apolitically. I know that's the ideal to strive toward, but determining these things on a case by case basis is going to be the only effective route.

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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      These sentences seem like non-sequiturs to me

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    5. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      Oh, sorry, from the perspective of Patreon, what apolitical, legalistic approach could they adopt? I don't think there is one. So when white supremacy groups flare up, their bans will seem like a right wing purge because (if the right wing owns them) it is.

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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      Set rules as clearly as possible and enforce them when it is politically expedient *and* when it is not. If you’re doing it right, your decisions will not too strongly follow the same political winds, and some decisions will be decidedly less popular than others

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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      I haven’t had an eye on Patreon’s bans over time, but I think it’s fair to say they ought to have removed some on the left if the issue is support of “violent organizations.” Neither end of the political spectrum has a monopoly on that, for sure!

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    8. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      I don't think it's as easy as you say, nor as clear cut as you think.

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    9. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      I'm curious - if coinciding with recent political events there has been a surge in right wing violence around the world, and hate crimes in the US, why would you suppose that "if you're doing it right, your decisions will not too strongly follow the same political winds"?

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    10. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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      It seems like it would follow that if a particular strain of political thought is giving rise to more violence and hate, a Fairness Doctrine of banning *necessarily* would be unfair because you can't ban left and right wing actors in equal measure.

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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      “Equal measure” is silly. But if Milo’s out, you should see antifa out, too, even if there’s less public sympathy for one or the other. If you disagree with that, nothing else I’d argue will make any sort of sense

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        2. Friel‏ @AaronFriel 16 Dec 2018
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          Okay, who will you ban from antifa on Patreon? Is there a particular person you have in mind as the foil to Milo here?

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 16 Dec 2018
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          Aaron, I’m not going to keep repeating myself.

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