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    Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 27 Nov 2018
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    Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Eliezer Yudkowsky

    Chromosomal sex & sexual phenotypes contain factual information. The way I identify & prefer to be addressed could be called factual information about me. But most trans issues are questions about how we ought to treat each other & how we ought/ought not compel that treatmenthttps://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1067183500216811521 …

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    Eliezer YudkowskyVerified account @ESYudkowsky
    Some people I usually respect for their willingness to publicly die on a hill of facts, now seem to be talking as if pronouns are facts, or as if who uses what bathroom is necessarily a factual statement about chromosomes. Come on, you know the distinction better than that!
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      1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 27 Nov 2018
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        If someone feels more comfortable being treated in a way that doesn't come entirely naturally to you, IMO, you should probably make some efforts to support that. If you fail sometimes, you should probably not feel bad about it. They should probably not try to make you feel bad.

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      2. Matjaž Leonardis‏ @MatjazLeonardis 27 Nov 2018
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        I'm not sure if this is just restating the above but often pronouns start to feel like a power/status game to both sides and people try to find elaborate reasons for their position rather than acknowledging the power aspect if what they are actually upset about.

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        Fully agree. People often try to control each other with or without any larger purpose to feel more powerful/safer. This is why any conversation about what people ought to do is more useful alongside a discussion on how they should or should not be compelled to do it

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      1. Epistimologist‏ @aikida3k 27 Nov 2018
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        Not specifically pursuant to the trans issue discussion, but a technicality: I don't think those are sexual phenotypes you are talking about but are actual organs. organ!=phenotype but organs can have different phenotypes...

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      1. Epistimologist‏ @aikida3k 27 Nov 2018
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        And now a comment pursuant to the trans issue: I just feel like it opens the door for creepers to enter into a woman's restroom, and be a gross individual, and they would be allowed because they felt like a woman that day.

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