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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      I don't know about "claims." "You are the global 1%" is a good example, IMO — it is TRUE, but if you make it too salient all the time the result is a bunch of people who wind up thinking the problem is that they have too much.

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    2. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      It's tricky to walk back true claims right. ;) Hence just the change in what we focus on writing about.

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    3. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      I'm also more pro redistribution message. I want people to revere impartial concern for welfare of all beings. Redistribution msg helps carry that. Also nearby worlds might involve moral obligation to give away lots of money for richest people. It's useful philosophical point.

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    4. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      I'm not against redistribution, and I think it's safe to assume you, I, and Tyler would roughly agree on how to do it. I do think the "you are the global 1%" messaging implies a problem with wealth (and even relatively minor wealth!) & has screwed up a lot of EAs' thinking

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    5. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      If we were starting again it's clear we wouldn't lead with 'give your money to the global poor' message! Probably not 'give your money' at all. So I mean, yeah, I'm in significant agreement. But hindsight is 20/20.

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      FWIW, I strongly suggest all of the EA org leaders attend newcomer/first-timer get-togethers at EA events — when I did, I was thoroughly stunned (and dismayed) by the attitudes reflected there

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    7. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      What were the attitudes? 🤔

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    8. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @webdevMason and

      Bumping this questions because I really want to know what the newcomers were talking about!

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      The most concerning one was that you have a moral obligation to take a job that you absolutely loathe if it is where your greatest comparative advantage in doing good lies. It is on you to find a way to survive it. There were no dissenters at a table of 6-8. I was floored.

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    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      I can't recall how many were speaking in favor, nodding, etc., but I did push back by saying that such a strong moral obligation could lead to burnout & dramatically reduce the adoption of EA principles, but my arguments — as presented by me, anyway — didn't seem impactful

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      This conversation occurred at the end of the meet-up & was preceded by what I honestly think I can describe as the "what I plan to give up as an EA" olympics

      11:42 AM - 18 Oct 2018
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        2. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

          Sacrifice 👏 has 👏 no 👏 intrinsic 👏 value 👏 under 👏 EA. 👏

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

          This was something I thought HAD been adequately covered in EA literature, which is why I found the whole thing pretty stunning. IMO there are still important status-related norms around self-sacrifice that probably can't just be addressed via blog posts.

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