A more fundamental question is: what does EA recommend in cases where the most effective thing isn't altruistic?https://twitter.com/HumanProgress/status/1052850035673759744 …
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Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @webdevMason and
And what if those are Effectively all cases?
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You have altogether too much fun, David
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Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf and
For what it's worth & from what I can tell, EA focus among the idea-producing class has made positive shifts: Move More Money → Provide Useful Labor (and now, slowly) → Generate Ideas. I think it suffers from trying (successfully) to make early thinking very sticky
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"EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights." I have never seen this definition used in any EA materials, or reflected back to me by any EA except you, just now. I *have* heard it (or something like it) used by people who describe themselves as "EA adjacent" or similar.
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Replying to @webdevMason @robertwiblin and
EA materials tend to use phrases like "do the most good" or "help others most effectively," which don't *exclude* your interpretation but certainly don't imply it!
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" Maximise welfare + respect human rights" doesn't seem horribly complicated to me.
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I mean, it certainly raises additional questions. It implies the need for further clarification on terms and discussion of downstream implications, edge cases, etc. But if you don't give your audience the real thing, it is *kind of* your fault when they don't have the real thing.
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