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    1. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 17 Oct 2018
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      Getting *really* tangential now, the book + this interview with @tylercowen & @robertwiblin convinced me today to make a real go at quitting alcohol. (Today, coincidentally, marks 6 weeks without nicotine!)https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/tyler-cowen-stubborn-attachments/ …

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    2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 17 Oct 2018
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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Robert Wiblin

      With regard to the second tweet in this thread, @juliagalef and @robertwiblin disagree with my claim that EA is "essentially about" redistribution. I suspect most EAs do consider redistribution essential to EA's philosophical core, but I leave it to youhttps://twitter.com/robertwiblin/status/1052715779936776193 …

      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️ added,

      Robert Wiblin @robertwiblin
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      One could support EA principles and philosophy and think redistribution is bad or neutral for some practical reason.
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    3. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @juliagalef @robertwiblin

      David Deutsch Retweeted HumanProgress.org

      A more fundamental question is: what does EA recommend in cases where the most effective thing isn't altruistic?https://twitter.com/HumanProgress/status/1052850035673759744 …

      David Deutsch added,

      HumanProgress.org @HumanProgress
      At the Millennium Summit of the United Nations in 2000, the world’s countries set the goal of halving the 1990 incidence of extreme poverty by 2015. This was met more than five years ahead of deadline. https://buff.ly/2QMVJia 
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    4. David Deutsch‏ @DavidDeutschOxf 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @webdevMason and

      And what if those are Effectively all cases?

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    5. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef @robertwiblin

      You have altogether too much fun, David 🙂

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    6. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf and

      For what it's worth & from what I can tell, EA focus among the idea-producing class has made positive shifts: Move More Money → Provide Useful Labor (and now, slowly) → Generate Ideas. I think it suffers from trying (successfully) to make early thinking very sticky

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    7. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights. The rest is just a debate about means. How much that will involve each of redistribution / sacrifice / business / innovation / labour is very debatable and likely hinges on your individual circumstance and point in history.

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    8. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      "EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights." I have never seen this definition used in any EA materials, or reflected back to me by any EA except you, just now. I *have* heard it (or something like it) used by people who describe themselves as "EA adjacent" or similar.

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @robertwiblin and

      EA materials tend to use phrases like "do the most good" or "help others most effectively," which don't *exclude* your interpretation but certainly don't imply it!

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    10. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      Everything has to be simplified to be explained. Maximise welfare + respect human rights would be misunderstood as few people know moral philosophy. 'Do the most good' could involve helping yourself so fully consistent. ...

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

      " Maximise welfare + respect human rights" doesn't seem horribly complicated to me.

      7:49 AM - 18 Oct 2018
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        2. Robert Wiblin‏ @robertwiblin 18 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @webdevMason @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

          Not to me either, but try it out with someone who has never done any moral philosophy. Promoting an ideology sucks as it always gets simplified as it spreads, then people hate on you for not having the fully sophisticated version in the name, or first paragraph. But 🤷‍♂️

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        3. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 18 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @robertwiblin @DavidDeutschOxf @juliagalef

          I mean, it certainly raises additional questions. It implies the need for further clarification on terms and discussion of downstream implications, edge cases, etc. But if you don't give your audience the real thing, it is *kind of* your fault when they don't have the real thing.

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