IMO, the moral isn't to grind yourself down either for the poorest (a potential failure mode for EAs) or for all civilization (a potential failure mode for the reader, perhaps). Maybe it's "find the awe in a *grand human tradition* & try to find your place in furthering it."
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Mason 🏃♂️ ✂️ Retweeted Mason 🏃♂️ ✂️
You could do worse than to spend your entire life in pursuit of good ideas to serve, either by promoting/spreading them OR by extending/revising them OR by executing on them. There are many paths to the thinker priesthood, and it needs youhttps://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1047498394447429633 …
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Getting *really* tangential now, the book + this interview with
@tylercowen &@robertwiblin convinced me today to make a real go at quitting alcohol. (Today, coincidentally, marks 6 weeks without nicotine!)https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/tyler-cowen-stubborn-attachments/ …9 replies 1 retweet 59 likesShow this thread -
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With regard to the second tweet in this thread,
@juliagalef and@robertwiblin disagree with my claim that EA is "essentially about" redistribution. I suspect most EAs do consider redistribution essential to EA's philosophical core, but I leave it to youhttps://twitter.com/robertwiblin/status/1052715779936776193 …Mason 🏃♂️ ✂️ added,
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A more fundamental question is: what does EA recommend in cases where the most effective thing isn't altruistic?https://twitter.com/HumanProgress/status/1052850035673759744 …
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And what if those are Effectively all cases?
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You have altogether too much fun, David
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For what it's worth & from what I can tell, EA focus among the idea-producing class has made positive shifts: Move More Money → Provide Useful Labor (and now, slowly) → Generate Ideas. I think it suffers from trying (successfully) to make early thinking very sticky
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EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights. The rest is just a debate about means. How much that will involve each of redistribution / sacrifice / business / innovation / labour is very debatable and likely hinges on your individual circumstance and point in history.
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"EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights." I have never seen this definition used in any EA materials, or reflected back to me by any EA except you, just now. I *have* heard it (or something like it) used by people who describe themselves as "EA adjacent" or similar.
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EA materials tend to use phrases like "do the most good" or "help others most effectively," which don't *exclude* your interpretation but certainly don't imply it!
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Everything has to be simplified to be explained. Maximise welfare + respect human rights would be misunderstood as few people know moral philosophy. 'Do the most good' could involve helping yourself so fully consistent. ...
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'Help others most effective' does exclude helping yourself so is a more narrow claim, but in most cases helping yourself more won't be the most moral thing, so usually the switch doesn't lose much.
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