It's hard to pin it down exactly, but... Attachments is really not about limiting your sense of obligation to others, but to widening the scope of that obligation (to, for example, people living many hundreds of years from now) & serving that obligation through high productivity.
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It’s difficult to appreciate the value of human lives which won’t be lived for many hundreds of years. Likewise, the value of lives already lived — lived without the gifts of growth even many of the poor among us can access: clean running water, heating/lighting, refrigerationpic.twitter.com/xTADR882d9
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Mason 🏃♂️ ✂️ Retweeted David Deutsch
Yes... this is a repeating theme for me, strangely converging across a few recent rabbit holes. What makes the world richer? Why does wealth compound? Ideas, which can be forgotten but not consumed away. When you get a good one, you usually get to keep it!https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/1052678945248878598 …
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IMO, the moral isn't to grind yourself down either for the poorest (a potential failure mode for EAs) or for all civilization (a potential failure mode for the reader, perhaps). Maybe it's "find the awe in a *grand human tradition* & try to find your place in furthering it."
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You could do worse than to spend your entire life in pursuit of good ideas to serve, either by promoting/spreading them OR by extending/revising them OR by executing on them. There are many paths to the thinker priesthood, and it needs youhttps://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1047498394447429633 …
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Getting *really* tangential now, the book + this interview with
@tylercowen &@robertwiblin convinced me today to make a real go at quitting alcohol. (Today, coincidentally, marks 6 weeks without nicotine!)https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/tyler-cowen-stubborn-attachments/ …9 replies 1 retweet 59 likesShow this thread -
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With regard to the second tweet in this thread,
@juliagalef and@robertwiblin disagree with my claim that EA is "essentially about" redistribution. I suspect most EAs do consider redistribution essential to EA's philosophical core, but I leave it to you https://twitter.com/robertwiblin/status/1052715779936776193 …Mason 🏃♂️ ✂️ added,
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A more fundamental question is: what does EA recommend in cases where the most effective thing isn't altruistic?https://twitter.com/HumanProgress/status/1052850035673759744 …
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And what if those are Effectively all cases?
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You have altogether too much fun, David
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For what it's worth & from what I can tell, EA focus among the idea-producing class has made positive shifts: Move More Money → Provide Useful Labor (and now, slowly) → Generate Ideas. I think it suffers from trying (successfully) to make early thinking very sticky
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A criticism I would have is that in service of being "big tent," EA hasn't really walked back some of its early ideas firmly enough, so there's quite a lot of probably-bad meme-spreading (e.g. "you are the global 1%" is an effective meme, but easily anchors people to a bad lens)
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"EA is: maximise welfare while respecting rights." I have never seen this definition used in any EA materials, or reflected back to me by any EA except you, just now. I *have* heard it (or something like it) used by people who describe themselves as "EA adjacent" or similar.
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