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EA is essentially about redistribution. It's very easy to find oneself (& everyone around) falling into well-worn political grooves at the mention of that word, often coalescing in a pit fight between that & The Economy, with "fairness" the conceptual gun nobody can keep hold of
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Replying to @webdevMason
FWIW I think most leaders of EA would strongly disagree with your claim that "EA is essentially about redistribution."
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Replying to @juliagalef
I think EA leaders are really, really bad at spreading nuance within a movement, but this is also true of most leaders and most movements
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I suspect the majority of self-described EAs (not just leaders) would also disagree with your claim. Long-termism (GCRs and otherwise) and animal welfare have been major, well-established parts of EA for years and are widely discussed in EA forums.
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Replying to @juliagalef
Animal welfare is *entirely* redistributive, it's just that the recipients aren't human. There's a whole mishmash of stuff constituting Far Future, but that's still an EA edge that the movement as a whole feels weird about, which is why the central EA books tend to sideline it.
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I can see a case for counting animal welfare as "redistributive", but usually people use that word to talk about redistributing wealth to other humans, so IMO this usage is a little misleading.
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Fair; I'm trying to do a lot with 280 characters! I'm trying to point at the long-standing "redivide the pie" vs. "grow the pie" debate, and I don't think causes like animal welfare (or, indeed, most traditional philanthropy) exist outside that — or *can* exist outside that.
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