Stubborn Attachments by @tylercowen makes the case for growth really well, while also serving as an introduction to related philosophical disputes. Especially interesting coming to it from an Effective Altruist background, where redistribution is the focushttps://www.amazon.com/Stubborn-Attachments-Prosperous-Responsible-Individuals/dp/1732265135/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539021315&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=tyler+cowen&dpPl=1&dpID=41sgCQOmYsL&ref=plSrch …
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Replying to @webdevMason
Having read most of a draft of Stubborn Attachments, I'll say that: - Cowen's probably getting me to stop talking about degrowth - What I really need to be talking about is societal "investment"; leftists are if anything the defenders of future growth by supporting education, etc
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Replying to @KivrinAiun
Leftists are incredibly — incredibly — stupid on education.
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Replying to @webdevMason
You think so; I disagree; so far our disputes on that haven't made much progress. But either way, my point is a little off to the side: the typical rightist these days deemphasizes the priority of investing in education *of any kind* (compared to, say, military investment.)
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Replying to @KivrinAiun
Here's end game: US is long on pushing standardized test scores up. As it stands, we're spending more per point we actually get on the PISA than anyone else. And we're patting ourselves on the back for the *spending*. It's insanity. You don't "invest in fire" when you burn cash.
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Replying to @webdevMason @KivrinAiun
That line about "investing in fire" is amazing
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Replying to @Squidbidness @webdevMason
Yeah, Mason wrote that very well. But basically, the content is the same as what I articulated. Everyone knows we're paying too much per marginal... unit of learning. So, do we try to fix our investment until we're on top, or just slash it? That's the left/right difference imo.
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Personally, I don't feel like giving up. Especially since a successful school placed in an area would have long-term multipliers; they produce better parents, who can raise better children, etc.
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Replying to @KivrinAiun @Squidbidness
The right is also dumb on this. A point on the PISA is not a "unit of learning," it's a point on the PISA. The left wants more carrot, the right wants more stick, & they're both so obsessed with which motivates the horse better that they can't see they're riding it over a cliff
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Everyone wants to argue about whether we're spending too much or too little on education. Find me one politician on either side who's thought enough about what a "good school" even *is* to have done some napkin math for how much it should cost.
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For what e.g. NY state is spending per student, a set of four kids could have a full-time tutor paid $80k/year. Are NY schools outperforming that? Why is that not the benchmark? Because education is all political posturing. I rag on the left bc their posturing is more expensive.
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