We know from the best data that Sanjay cited that 1) there are no real, big shifts in each generation, that 2) older and younger folk are different, and that 3) older folk have faulty memories. Given those 3 I'd put $ on the codgers continuing to make $ by disparaging the kids
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
I think the data is kinda interesting, but I don't think it answers (or is meant to answer) the questions I'm trying to ask
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Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and
It is tough to find good data for these questions which are great questions btw.
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
Yeah, and frankly I don't really know how to feel about standard survey methods... a lot of the time, they're sort of like a sociological version of the pain scale: nobody really knows what a "1" or a "10" is supposed to be, but sure, I guess I'm a 6.
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Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and
Now you are getting into nerdy territory—are measures used across cohorts equivalent; do they measure the same thing? It is a doable analysis that is most often ignored.
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @webdevMason and
In fact, when we did that exact analysis we found some evidence that narcissism actually decreased during the purported "epidemic" of narcissism:http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797617724208 …
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
I think this sort of highlights the need to ground claims about population traits to some kind of measurable behavior, e.g. if people are becoming more narcissistic, how might that be reflected in crime/social service/employment data, etc.?
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Replying to @webdevMason @BrentWRoberts and
You’ll still have validity questions left and right. To what degree does the behavior actually reflect narcissism, extraversion, etc.? Crime was especially high in early 1990s and dropped. Are kids today higher in A and C now than 1991?
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Replying to @brentdpsy @webdevMason and
And the meaning of a behavior can change with age or time too, same as questionnaire items. e.g. Taking a photo of yourself and distributing it to 100s of friends is a very different act in 2018 than it was in 1988
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Replying to @hardsci @webdevMason and
(Btw I’m not disagreeing about the importance of grounding these claims in behavior - I totally agree with that! It’s just hard)
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Super, super hard, which is why I think it's often more useful to focus on figuring out *just what exactly is happening* and worry less about drawing particular causal lines, which probably rely on some unjustifiable assumptions anyway
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