Having lived through a few generations now and having seen every younger one called out by old"er" folk usually based on anecdote rather than data, I'm beginning to see cohort arguments as intellectual amuse-bouches--puffs of indefensible statements that everyone likes...
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
This is definitely the headline, but coming from one of those younger gens myself, *my anecdotal experience* is a lot more optimism for my generation coming from elders than the youth! I think "crotchety old folks disappointed with the kids" may itself be the big cultural myth.
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Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and
There's a lot of anecdotal evidence for the crotchety old folk idea :)
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
Which is the prevailing cultural meme: that lazy millennials eat too much avocado toast, or that clueless elders think lazy millennials eat too much avocado toast?
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Replying to @webdevMason @BrentWRoberts and
Depends if you're asking the lazy millennials or the clueless elders
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Replying to @webdevMason @BrentWRoberts and
I was being half glib. But you're right - you could assess different generations' beliefs about each other cross-sectionally, without doing a multi-decade panel study. As long as you're disciplined about not trying to use it to judge who's right or wrong...
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Replying to @hardsci @webdevMason and
We know from the best data that Sanjay cited that 1) there are no real, big shifts in each generation, that 2) older and younger folk are different, and that 3) older folk have faulty memories. Given those 3 I'd put $ on the codgers continuing to make $ by disparaging the kids
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and
I think the data is kinda interesting, but I don't think it answers (or is meant to answer) the questions I'm trying to ask
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Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and
It is tough to find good data for these questions which are great questions btw.
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Yeah, and frankly I don't really know how to feel about standard survey methods... a lot of the time, they're sort of like a sociological version of the pain scale: nobody really knows what a "1" or a "10" is supposed to be, but sure, I guess I'm a 6.
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Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and
Now you are getting into nerdy territory—are measures used across cohorts equivalent; do they measure the same thing? It is a doable analysis that is most often ignored.
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Replying to @BrentWRoberts @webdevMason and
In fact, when we did that exact analysis we found some evidence that narcissism actually decreased during the purported "epidemic" of narcissism:http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797617724208 …
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