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    1. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 17 Sep 2018
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      Sure, but the question we're disagreeing about is whether there is a node in the causal graph titled "lower value on adventure/risk" that has an arrow pointing from it to some important outcome measures in the American economy/society

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    2. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason @tylercowen

      In my model, there (probably) isn't -- so if increased education costs affect important outcomes in society, it isn't via a "lower value on adventure/risk" intermediate node

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    3. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @juliagalef @webdevMason @tylercowen

      ... but one thing that could make me update towards your model is if Openness to Experience has gone down over time in the US. I don't actually know the answer to that. But maybe a personality researcher like @hardsci does?

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    4. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci 17 Sep 2018
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      Depending on the meaning of risk-taking it may be more in the extraversion domain (sensation-seeking, boldness, impulsiveness, etc.). There's one study I know of showing later generations have gone *up* in extraversion - but I'm not sure I put a ton of stock in that study

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    5. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci 17 Sep 2018
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      Cohort effects on personality are much debated. I'm generally more persuaded by studies that show lots of them are null or very small, e.g. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1745691609356789 … But tagging @NotoriousMBD @BrentWRoberts who may be able to weigh in

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    6. Brent W. Roberts‏ @BrentWRoberts 17 Sep 2018
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      Having lived through a few generations now and having seen every younger one called out by old"er" folk usually based on anecdote rather than data, I'm beginning to see cohort arguments as intellectual amuse-bouches--puffs of indefensible statements that everyone likes...

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    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and

      This is definitely the headline, but coming from one of those younger gens myself, *my anecdotal experience* is a lot more optimism for my generation coming from elders than the youth! I think "crotchety old folks disappointed with the kids" may itself be the big cultural myth.

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    8. Brent W. Roberts‏ @BrentWRoberts 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and

      There's a lot of anecdotal evidence for the crotchety old folk idea :)

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    9. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @BrentWRoberts @hardsci and

      Which is the prevailing cultural meme: that lazy millennials eat too much avocado toast, or that clueless elders think lazy millennials eat too much avocado toast?

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    10. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @webdevMason @BrentWRoberts and

      Depends if you're asking the lazy millennials or the clueless elders

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      Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️‏ @webdevMason 17 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @hardsci @BrentWRoberts and

      Does it?

      3:35 PM - 17 Sep 2018
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        2. Sanjay Srivastava‏ @hardsci 17 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @webdevMason @BrentWRoberts and

          I was being half glib. But you're right - you could assess different generations' beliefs about each other cross-sectionally, without doing a multi-decade panel study. As long as you're disciplined about not trying to use it to judge who's right or wrong...

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        3. Brent W. Roberts‏ @BrentWRoberts 17 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @hardsci @webdevMason and

          We know from the best data that Sanjay cited that 1) there are no real, big shifts in each generation, that 2) older and younger folk are different, and that 3) older folk have faulty memories. Given those 3 I'd put $ on the codgers continuing to make $ by disparaging the kids

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        1. Brent W. Roberts‏ @BrentWRoberts 17 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @webdevMason @hardsci and

          Oh, I actually think there is a paper floating around in the review stage that asked that question...

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