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Will Dormann

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Vulnerability Analyst at the CERT/CC. My thoughts are my own, not my employer's.

Joined August 2012

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    1. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      I’m fresh installing a Windows 10 OS, I will report what default apps Microsoft pushes to me.

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    2. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      I didn’t use Microsoft online account, instead, I used a local account.

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    3. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      I unchecked all the 5 or 6 options regarding privacy.

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    4. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      Now I’m updating the OS via Windows Update.

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    5. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      Now I finished updating the OS. Here is what I got at this moment.pic.twitter.com/QxcbxaehiA

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    6. Haifei Li‏ @HaifeiLi 28 Dec 2017
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      Interestingly I didn’t (or haven’t) received any third-party apps, probably bc I unchecked all the privacy options? I will leave the OS there and see if I get the apps later.

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    7. Will Dormann‏ @wdormann 28 Dec 2017
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      I don't believe the privacy options exposed by the GUI make a difference. In my experience, you get 3rd party software installed even with maximum privacy settings.

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    8. Will Dormann‏ @wdormann 29 Dec 2017
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      Confirmed: 1. Install Win10 1709 2. De-select all privacy-invading options 3. Look at your start menu 4. Check for updates. Wait a little bit. 5. Look at your start menu again. Enjoy your new 3rd-party foistware! (no need to even reboot) Conclusion: Privacy settings don't matter.pic.twitter.com/3I5AMRD6pO

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    9. vestigialdev‏ @vestigialdev 30 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @wdormann @campuscodi @HaifeiLi

      IIRC the filesizes were all 16k, so maybe not truly installing 3rd party programs, but pinning links to their installers. (in other words, ads)

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      Will Dormann‏ @wdormann 30 Dec 2017
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      No, 3rd-party programs do indeed eventually get installed. Sometimes they may start out as just an icon shortcut to install it over the internet. But the bits will get there. I started looking into this when I saw a Facebook application *RUNNING* on my personal computer.pic.twitter.com/FIaR2prrqa

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