@czaplic Great talk @ Deconstruct. Besides the books you mentioned, any recommended further reading in language philosophy and semiotics?
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Thanks! I found things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_and_Sensibilia_(Austin) … extremely unsatisfying. I felt like things labeled "philosophy of language" were so set on the idea that meaning _can_ have solid foundations that they end up making up some pretty silly stuff.
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I came away very disillusioned with any sort of "meta-physics" and started looking for different lineages of thinkers who looked into the same general topic.
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That's how I found Nagarjuna (who I think got it right) but I found the logic of that argument is extraordinarily difficult to follow because he doesn't believe in language as a means of communicating truth
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But https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna#Sunyata … talks about the four cases he stresses in his argument, and I _think_ I first read about this argument in https://www.amazon.com/Bodhicaryavatara-Oxford-Worlds-Classics/dp/0199540438 … (which covers lots of other stuff, and I recall not thinking about the translation, so it's probably not terrible)
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Eventually I found "Zen Action/Zen Person" http://www.uhpress.hawaii.edu/p-279-9780824810238.aspx … which I found very helpful after I struggled with Buddhist texts on my own, but it's probably fine to read if you are already motivated!
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It is a western philosopher trying to break down the argument in a way that is aware of fundamental translation issues. E.g. "being" and "emptiness" have very particular connotations that can be super misleading, and it's really easy to pass over that without realizing
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Anyway, those are the books I remember best without looking back through things carefully. I hope it is helpful, and I'm excited that someone else is interested in this stuff :D
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Fabulous, thank you. I'll give these a read. I'm coming from the perspective of PL pedagogy--while refactoring Stanford's PL course last year (http://cs242.stanford.edu/ ), I found myself deeply dissatisfied with the lack of answers to things like "what is a programming language?"
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Leading to wonderful results like this http://willcrichton.net/notes/what-is-a-pl-survey/ … all of which got me thinking about the essence of what is or isn't a language, how our description of meaning relates to the medium of description, etc.
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cognitive psychology. PhD