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    Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton Apr 11

    A debugger is not a debugger, it is an interactive program executor. The sooner we internalize this, the sooner we can talk about what should really be considered a “debugger.”

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      2. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton Apr 11

        A person debugging a program is a debugger. They use many tools to understand program behavior, such as an interactive program executor or program state displayer (printf). Which raises the question — how useful is interactive execution to understanding behavior?

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      3. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton Apr 11

        Or differently: what other kinds of tools help debug / understand programs? Whyline showed that another framing is *automatic reduction of context*. Tools that can interactively eliminate regions of code unrelated to the bug. (Good idea, let’s do more of that!)

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      2. Amjad Masad ⠕‏ @amasad Apr 11
        Replying to @wcrichton

        Exactly. You have to start from the perspective of the user. That's how innovation happens.

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      3. Ted van Gaalen‏ @tedvga Apr 12
        Replying to @amasad @wcrichton

        But what if the user doesn't know what they want?

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      2. SV Weirder Broman  🦥‏ @mccoubr Apr 11
        Replying to @wcrichton

        Folks who design chips use a hardware description language (HDL) that can be complied into transistors. But before that happens, the HDL code runs through millions of hours of tests in a simulator. We need an analogous "software description language" model for programming.

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      3. Marcel Weiher  🇪🇺‏ @mpweiher Apr 11
        Replying to @mccoubr @wcrichton

        A “programming language”? 🤷‍♂️

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      2. Jarkko Hietaniemi‏ @jhietaniemi Apr 12
        Replying to @wcrichton

        Conversely, the programmer is the bugger. Or maybe the enbugger.

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      3. Jarkko Hietaniemi‏ @jhietaniemi Apr 12
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        And eventually the rebugger.

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      1. Charles in NJ‏ @catintp Apr 12
        Replying to @wcrichton

        A true debugger should send you a notification after you’ve been staring at a problem for a long time: “You realize, don’t you, that you are getting exactly what you asked for, although it may not be what you wanted.” Whoa. Does that mean my mother was a debugger?

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      1. Ted van Gaalen‏ @tedvga Apr 12
        Replying to @wcrichton

        True. you are the debugger, not the tools you'd use for that.

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