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    1. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020

      ShriramKrishnamurthi Retweeted Adam Leventhal

      When both @ahl and @bcantrill are singing the praises of Rust, you wonder if all our other languages should just shut down and go home. I'm reminded of @paulg's "Java's Cover" in reverse.https://twitter.com/ahl/status/1244678124505149445 …

      ShriramKrishnamurthi added,

      Adam Leventhal @ahl
      The @rustlang ecosystem is like some fucking sci-fi utopian planned society where everything works the way it should. Today's discovery: `cargo doc --open --package <cratename>`
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      3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    2. Adam Leventhal‏ @ahl 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @bcantrill @paulg

      What's your take on Rust, Shriram? I feel like like of a dummy when it comes to PL, but I think it's beautiful and pulls a lot of great ideas from places like ML. Really satisfying to build in, and then the ecosystem is great.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ahl @bcantrill @paulg

      It's awesome! Doesn't at all surprise me that you rock stars are finding it good. It's like C done right by people with humility and and understanding of the weaknesses of humans, while still keeping what really matters about C. »

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    4. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @ahl and

      There are certainly some issues around the edges (people find borrows tricky to learn; some things are hard to write because the language maybe gets in the way too much, so it can't entirely replace C; libraries are still being built). »

      3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @ahl and

      But for decades we've wondered "What could be a better C", and there were several cool academic projects (like Cyclone), but none quite clicked. Rust brought it all together and engineered the heck out of it to make it useful. I'd call it an industry-academia win-win. »

      1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
    6. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @ahl and

      A few years old now, but Alex Light did a senior honors reimplementing the 169 OS in Rust, and wrote up some of his observations. Not sure how current, but I found it really useful then. The thing that most surprised me was his trouble with allocation. http://cs.brown.edu/research/pubs/theses/ugrad/2015/light.alex.pdf …

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @ahl and

      With the push towards embedded + WASM, custom allocators have been implemented, so this should no longer be an issue. e.g. see https://docs.rs/wee_alloc/0.4.2/wee_alloc/ …

      11:00 AM - 30 Mar 2020
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        2. ShriramKrishnamurthi‏ @ShriramKMurthi 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @wcrichton @ahl and

          Sweet! Has anyone implemented a (traditional, dynamic) GC in (not for) Rust?

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        3. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @ahl and

          Several, although not sure if any are really battle-tested. https://github.com/Manishearth/rust-gc … https://github.com/withoutboats/shifgrethor … https://docs.rs/gluon_vm/0.7.0/gluon_vm/gc/index.html … https://github.com/kyren/gc-arena  http://users.cecs.anu.edu.au/~steveb/pubs/papers/rust-ismm-2016.pdf …

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