I know nothing about this, so I can’t confirm or deny that, but IIRC there was evidence to suggest it does generalize more than you might think… but again, I’m totally uneducated here, and I know none of the nuance.
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Replying to @lexi_lambda @sigfig and
Yeah I was also under the impression that negative results on exploratory learning were based on classroom settings, where it seems unsurprising to me. I guess it's time to actually engage with the research...
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Replying to @disconcision @lexi_lambda and
A lot of empirical literature does focus on classrooms, but the consensus is that well-guided/scaffolded instruction outperforms constructivist approaches for individuals as well. I like this wiki: https://andrewcerniglia.com/phd/workflow/example/working%20memory.html …
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Replying to @sliminality @disconcision and
I'm very happy to discuss further in DMs, but I don't champion this view outside of LS research circles anymore, since my experience is that these sorts of discussions often devolve into non-falsifiable assertions and I'm not trying to deny anyone's personal experiences.
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Replying to @sliminality @soylentqueen and
OMG, yeah, debating constructivists is a pointless activity because you're questioning their mystical experiences, which isn't something that can be done rationally.
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Replying to @ShriramKMurthi @soylentqueen and
I at least wasn't debating, just relaying a personal experience about what didn't work. Wish it did.
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I wonder if there's any research on constructivism and affect. A hypothesis: guided learning, particularly in classrooms, is great for knowledge acquisition and bad for motivation, but vice versa for unsupervised exploration.
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Replying to @wcrichton @deech and
It's simultaneously possible for guidance to produce more learning per unit of student effort, while exploration produces long-term motivation that causes you to invest more overall effort than you would in a classroom.
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With the conclusion obviously not being “get rid of teachers”, but “make classrooms more exciting!”
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Reminds me of this https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/09/active-learning-works-but-students-dont-like-it.html …
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Yeah, I saw that study, but it doesn't *in the slightest* correspond to my lived experience (not only at Brown). I think most people just don't know how to run a classroom.
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cognitive psychology. PhD