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Articulating the ineffable. Programming language theory 🤝 cognitive psychology. PhD @Stanford

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    1. Yaron (Ron) Minsky‏ @yminsky 9 Sep 2018

      Yaron (Ron) Minsky Retweeted Will Crichton

      A thoughtful post on the relationship between systems programming, low level programming, systems design, types, functional programming, and a few other things...https://twitter.com/wcrichton/status/1038925653880393728 …

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      Will Crichton @wcrichton
      What is Systems Programming, Really? http://willcrichton.net/notes/systems-programming/ …
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    2. Hillel‏ @hillelogram 9 Sep 2018
      Replying to @yminsky

      On one hand, I'm sympathetic to the idea of bringing systems programming more in line with "systems thinking" and "systems theory" in other fields. On the other, I think under that definition of "systems programming" we don't have any _truly_ systems-oriented languages yet.

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    3. Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 9 Sep 2018
      Replying to @hillelogram @yminsky

      In researching the post, it wasn't clear to me how applicable traditional systems thinking is to software design. After reading 1/2 of "Thinking in Systems", left the impression of being most useful for analyzing economies, ecosystems, etc. more than code.

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      Will Crichton‏ @wcrichton 9 Sep 2018
      Replying to @wcrichton @hillelogram @yminsky

      Feels like software dev is more about how to break problems into subcomponents and define interfaces, while systems thinking is more about inputs/outputs and feedback loops. Then again, woefully ignorant on that kind of systems, so always looking for deeper connections!

      8:09 PM - 9 Sep 2018
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        1. Hillel‏ @hillelogram 9 Sep 2018
          Replying to @wcrichton @yminsky

          A couple of people you might enjoy are Nancy Leveson, who's _Engineering a Safer World_ uses systems theory to study software safety, and Pamela Zave, who did a bunch of stuff on feature interaction in software.

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        1. Justin Cormack‏ @justincormack 10 Sep 2018
          Replying to @wcrichton @hillelogram @yminsky

          feedback is a neglected area of software design, although gradually as distributed systems grow more important it is being understood more. But its not yet a language level feature.

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