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Holocaust and Genocide Studies/ Senior Lecturer @northumbriauni/ @usarmy veteran / solo dad / goalkeeper/ Grad @westpoint_usma and @UNC. he/him

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    Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

    Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dinesh D'Souza

    [Thread] So, once again, @DineshDSouza has trotted out the tired "Nazis were socialists" argument. He does appear to have at least taken a picture of the cover of a scholarly book though, so that's something. Let's talk about this (again) 🤦‍♂️https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1126486361870143488 …

    Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

    Dinesh D'SouzaVerified account @DineshDSouza
    So Hitler wasn’t a socialist? This important book by German historian Gotz Aly argues that the reason Germans supported Hitler to the end was because the Nazis looted Jews and others to fund a lavish welfare state: free education, free health care, even state-funded vacations pic.twitter.com/xRgwQXwOXW
    11:04 AM - 10 May 2019
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      2. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        First, off, let's just be clear about WHY DD and other conservatives make this argument in the first place. The argument goes something like this: "Socialism is bad. The Nazis were socialists (and very bad). All Democrats want socialism. Therefore, all Democrats are very bad."pic.twitter.com/nxSs3CPli0

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      3. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        It's the transitive property of stupid. And it's illogical, fallacious, and intellectually dishonest, but here we are. (See cartoon by conservative Robert McCray)pic.twitter.com/LDGKcnREx6

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      4. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Mike Stuchbery  💀 🍷

        If you want a beatdown of this argument in general that has already been issued, see @MikeStuchbery_'s NSFW (but still on point) refutation.https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/898254826277978113 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Mike Stuchbery  💀 🍷Verified account @MikeStuchbery_
        Ok, dickhead, I did this politely to someone else earlier, but now I'm going to rinse you. Prepare. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/898042049261326337 …
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      5. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!

        I also wrote a thread on this when Representative Mo Brooks (R-AL) tried to float this argument ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE...by (mis)reading from "Mein Kampf"https://twitter.com/waitmanb/status/1110926294693412864 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! @waitmanb
        [Thread] Or...why do we have to explain in 2019 why Congresspeople should NOT quote from Mein Kampf on the floor of the House (or ever)? Let's talk about this. Time for some #Threaducation https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/26/gop-congressman-quotes-hitlers-mein-kampf-slam-trumps-adversaries-liars/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6f09e06b15bb …
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      6. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!

        And here...https://twitter.com/waitmanb/status/1101195238834692096 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! @waitmanb
        Next, DD trots out his tired accusation that the Nazis were socialists. It is true that a part of the party with Roehm and others DID advocate some recognizable socialist policies. Of course, to avoid losing support of elites, Hitler had them murdered. And socialism was done. pic.twitter.com/ZY2neOVI3y
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      7. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!

        And here...https://twitter.com/waitmanb/status/1101195240550080514 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! @waitmanb
        In their works on the topic, both Peter Hayes and @adam_tooze have shown that Hitler's economic policy was not a socialist one. Capitalists did quite well...in the context of a war economy. Big business generally supported Hitler's economic policies. pic.twitter.com/a77dhcaaS8
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      8. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!

        And here...https://twitter.com/waitmanb/status/1101195242609479682 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! @waitmanb
        D'Souza then moves on to point out Mussolini's socialist roots (true) while ignoring that he became a fascist which was definitely NOT leftist. See the words of the Italian thinker Giovanni Gentile who helped define the Fascism that Mussolini believed and co-wrote. pic.twitter.com/Glr8CRedS7
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      9. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! Retweeted Dinesh D'Souza

        In any case, DD apparently has "discovered" the work of German scholar Götz Aly. He might have even read it. He DID take a screen shot. In any case, not surprisingly, he gets it wrong...and cherry picks it for his "argument," riding Aly's legitimacy.https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1126486361870143488 …

        Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots! added,

        Dinesh D'SouzaVerified account @DineshDSouza
        So Hitler wasn’t a socialist? This important book by German historian Gotz Aly argues that the reason Germans supported Hitler to the end was because the Nazis looted Jews and others to fund a lavish welfare state: free education, free health care, even state-funded vacations pic.twitter.com/xRgwQXwOXW
        1 reply 8 retweets 148 likes
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      10. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        What DD doesn't know (probably because he lacks any historical training) is that Aly's work, while very important, is not without controversy. Indeed, he sometimes seems to be provocative to trigger important discussions that haven't taken place...like mass Nazi theft.

        1 reply 9 retweets 157 likes
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      11. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        So, back to Aly's book (Hitler's Beneficiaries) which DD claims proves his argument that the Nazis were socialist. He throws around "welfare state," and "state-funded vacations" without really comprehending Aly's main thesis.

        2 replies 9 retweets 130 likes
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      12. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Aly argues in his book (controversially) that the role of massive expropriation at the individual, community, and national level in the Third Reich was used to buy loyalty from Germans and that this loyalty was pivotal to Hitler's popularity.

        3 replies 8 retweets 135 likes
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      13. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        His book is a great contribution to #Holocaust scholarship, especially as his demonstrates how deeply corruption, theft of wealth, and genocide touched the ordinary German and were also key to the stability of the Reich.

        1 reply 7 retweets 135 likes
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      14. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        He makes it clear that the motivation behind what DD sees as "socialism" was, in Aly's own words, "political opportunism," not an ideology. (see p. 314)pic.twitter.com/2BUOVvEi0F

        2 replies 12 retweets 159 likes
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      15. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Aly notes that "welfare" designed to placate the Germans. This is in keeping with Hitler's intense desire that (based on the WWI homefront experience) no German actually FEEL the economic effects of the war. (See also the great reluctance to introduce rationing)pic.twitter.com/gWjUCUaRt9

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      16. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Aly on p. 323 on how economic bribery was an improvised measure to ensure the loyalty of an increasingly victimized people.

        2 replies 8 retweets 106 likes
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      17. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        We should note that in a 326 page book, Aly devotes 16 pages to what he calls "Nazi socialism." He does here suggest there are some commonalities with other "egalitarian movements" but he hardly calls Hitler a socialist.

        1 reply 7 retweets 114 likes
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      18. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Aly is pretty clear why people supported the Nazis...and he isn't really saying it's socialism, certainly not democratic socialism or anything like it today.pic.twitter.com/AJNT8VFflf

        1 reply 9 retweets 118 likes
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      19. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Those "state-funded vacations?" Part of Hitler's "Kraft durch Freude" (Strength through Joy) program which sought to give vacations to increase quality of life. It provided modest events, all of which ended in 1939.pic.twitter.com/3O3T2Gxx3p

        3 replies 4 retweets 96 likes
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      20. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        But Aly is not without his critics. Particularly as he makes his more controversial arguments like those below:pic.twitter.com/EHKDDMR5i8

        1 reply 4 retweets 87 likes
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      21. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Were DD INTERESTED, he could have found the critiques by economic historian Adam Tooze. But, since he isn’t a scholar, of Nazi Germany, DD doesn’t speak German and couldn’t access most of this debate. A very detailed summary (from @adam_tooze) is below: https://adamtooze.com/2017/01/25/what-held-nazi-germany-together-the-aly-tooze-debate-revisited/ …

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      22. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Tooze points out in a review for the @Telegraph some important weaknesses in Aly's provocative book below https://adamtooze.com/app/uploads/2017/01/A-new-look-at-Nazi-plunder-Telegraph-1.pdf …pic.twitter.com/hJgbNDacT8

        2 replies 4 retweets 95 likes
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      23. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        For a popular refutation of the claim that Hitler was socialist, see this Vox piece. Pay particular attention to Hitler's rejection of the more "socialist" members of his party, who were excised before the Nazis came to power. https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18283879/nazism-socialism-hitler-gop-brooks-gohmert …

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      24. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        For more, see:https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/ …

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      25. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/07/brazils-president-resurrects-zombie-claim-that-nazism-was-leftist-movement/?utm_term=.7d7e423a6962 …

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      26. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        In any case, hopefully this will be the LAST time we have to rehash this nonsense argument (regardless of where you stand on socialism).pic.twitter.com/DgS60en0Xn

        3 replies 15 retweets 144 likes
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      27. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        Good old @DineshDSouza is an ideologue who doesn't understand ideology. He abuses history because he is not an historian. His ideas lack context because he doesn't know the literature...or the context. He is tinkerer, assembling faulty argument from mismatched parts.

        8 replies 21 retweets 198 likes
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      28. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        But, at least, he provides a #threaducation opportunity for rational and reasonable people to discover the truth about the Nazi state.pic.twitter.com/U3CAhFBe4q

        1 reply 4 retweets 127 likes
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      29. Dr. Waitman Beorn-Now with all shots!‏ @waitmanb 10 May 2019

        I dedicate this thread to my @Twitter Doktorvater, @KevinMKruse and all the other #Twitterstorians who engage people like Didnt D'dothereading, not to argue with them, but to present #history to the rest of us.

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      30. End of conversation

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