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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 24 May 2018
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    All the talk about inscrutability of convolutional neural nets and AI that can explain itself has me wondering: what are non-trivial (and used in real systems) examples of the opposite kind of algorithm: highly scrutable and self-explanatory? For example greedy graph search.

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      1. Noah Rosenberg‏ @nrose 24 May 2018
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        GEB is 1000 pages of this

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      2. vakibs‏ @vakibs 24 May 2018
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        People who talk about the inscrutability of neural networks are often complaining about the lack of mathematical proofs for optimality, convergence etc. If you bring them, it doesn't mean they will suddenly become scrutable :) any more than to 0.00000001% of mathematicians..

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      3. vakibs‏ @vakibs 24 May 2018
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        So to give a counter example would be an algorithm well-analyzed in the classical computation theory, like sorting.

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      1. Corey Yanofsky, sparkling statistician‏ @Corey_Yanofsky 24 May 2018
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        generalized linear models are not self-explanatory but are highly scrutable

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      1. Gene Linetsky‏ @GeneLinetsky 24 May 2018
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        Incel behavior qualifies

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      1. Farhat Habib‏ @far_hat 24 May 2018
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        Decision trees, linear models are easily interpretable. This gives a breakdown for different algorithms https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTuzYroVAAAa1Rs.jpg:large …

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      1. Michael F. Martin‏ @riemannzeta 24 May 2018
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        Decision trees

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