The leader of the free world might disagree.
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Replying to @davealevine
He’s consequential without being important, that’s what makes him so mad. Despite everything nobody gives a shit about him.
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Replying to @davealevine
He’s actually the prime example I am thinking of. I don’t think you understood the consequentiality versus importance point. You’re consequential when you matter. You’re important if you matter the way you think you do. Hence the crowd size anxiety etc.
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Replying to @vgr
I can see the nuance here but again millions of people (enough to elect him President) disagree with your opinion here. Hard to say he isn’t “important” in a meaningful way to at least millions of people if not empirically.
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Replying to @davealevine
By the standards of the presidency, he’s dead last. Basically nobody around him likes him. They treat him like a natural disaster rather than a human being. To be managed rather than followed. He’s something between a lolcow and a message to his base, a tool rather than a leader.
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Replying to @vgr @davealevine
Perhaps importance is not the best word. But there’s a big gap between a natural disaster and an important human. Not a nuance. It’s easy to hate his base, but it’s not quite clear how to hate him. Just like it’s meaningless to hate Hurricane Katrina.
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Replying to @vgr
You clearly have strong opinions about him. But you also must know that literally millions of people disagree with this perspective.
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Replying to @davealevine @vgr
Seems like you are speaking about a notion like “publicly recognized character” or “mainstream respectability” or something along those lines.
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Replying to @davealevine @vgr
It’s like the rhetorician who wins arguments against the philosopher. Infuriating but effective.
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I think we’re merely having a terminology disagreement caused by my use of the imprecise word ‘important’ for what I’m getting at. Not worth sorting out 
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Replying to @vgr
I think so... Maybe it is “meaningful” in some kind of historical sense. The notion of “respect” feels related.
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