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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 2 May 2018
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    If you cannot model other minds that cannot model other minds can you model other minds at all? If you can only model other minds that are like your own mind, are you actually modeling anything at all? It’s the tolerating-intolerance class of neurodiversity conundrums.

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      2.  🤧 🌎‏ @atthatmatt 2 May 2018
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        Technically, if you build it up from nothing based on observations and inference it's a model, even if it looks eerily similar to something else.

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      3. Hal Morris‏ @HalMorris3 3 May 2018
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        That sounds kind of eerie, but I don't know what it means.

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      1. Teddy Kim‏ @Teddy__Kim 2 May 2018
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        That's why I never really bought Mill(?)'s point that it's better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied and the fool disagrees only because he doesn't understand the mind of Socrates and implying Socrates understands the mind of the fool. But who's to say he does?

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      2. Gene Linetsky‏ @GeneLinetsky 2 May 2018
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        A mind that cannot model other minds is not a mind because minds are fundamentally social. A mind cannot even arise outside of a fairly lengthy social process.

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        And if we construct "minds" by some very different process, we should expect the result to be very different from humanity.

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      2. Hal Morris‏ @HalMorris3 3 May 2018
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        Modeling other minds that can't model other minds takes much more of a conscious effort. People who "can't model other minds", often, maybe generally could, but it doesn't come naturally

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      3. Hal Morris‏ @HalMorris3 3 May 2018
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        See The Journal of Best Practices: A Memoir of Marriage, Asperger Syndrome, and One Man's Quest to Be a Better Husband by David Finch

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      1. visa is working on his ebook‏ @visakanv 3 May 2018
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        I like to think I’m better than average at this

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      2. Content of Media‏ @ContentOfMedia 3 May 2018
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        The difference between emulation and virtual machines.

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        vs. a mere chroot

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