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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Apr 2018
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    There is something bizarre about “high-IQ” as an identity core like with Mensa. Like a trade union of capitalists or a commune of libertarians. Or that South Park joke about the anti-semitic sect of Judaism. Shouldn’t you be winning Nobels, rather than performing identity?

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      2. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire 22 Apr 2018
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        1) The IQ required to join Mensa is not that much higher than the average everyday doctor or lawyer so I think you’re asking a little much. 2) People with high IQ do not owe the world their intellectual labor any more than, say, women owe men their emotional labor.

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      3. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire 22 Apr 2018
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        3) Isn’t there enough unhappiness in the world without you mocking one of the few organizations that offer some people othered by their mental traits any sense of community? 4) Why are you wasting your time virtue-signalling your well-adjusted egalitarianism? In other words...

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      2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 21 Apr 2018
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        do you think people who win Nobels don't perform identity? i mean really i think high IQ societies are just for people who haven't figured out signaling yet

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Apr 2018
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        It’s not their primary uh, use of their high IQ brains though

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Apr 2018
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        Nothing wrong with it. I just find it a bizarre coping mechanism around that specific trait. Intelligence is generally a divergent trait that is more likely to find an outlet in interest groups rather than generic social/support.

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Apr 2018
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        Performing identity is not the same as seeking community. If you just wanted to hang out with other smart people, you’d likely pick a specific interest like a chess club or a board gaming community. It’s like tall people forming a tall people club instead of playing basketball

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      3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl 21 Apr 2018
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        I wanted a 'smart community' and it took me a *long* time before I found it (lesswrong). I tried general 'smart' meetups, like philosophy or debate groups, and was extremely disappointed. It might be easier for people immersed in academia or research, though.

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      2. Michael Hazani‏ @michaelhazani 22 Apr 2018
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        You're making it sound like Mensa is a bunch of people in a room, celebrating how great it is to be smart. (Not a Mensan nor have I ever been but) that is not how *they* see themselves at all. They seem to celebrate curiosity, knowledge, diverse expertise. From their website:pic.twitter.com/FEQJvE0abD

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 22 Apr 2018
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        My point is using IQ as the first gate is the problematic part. That doesn’t preclude special interests within. Ie there’s a difference between a Mensa chess group and a regular chess group There’s a difference between a billionaire poker group and regular

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