Was one of them "look, first we extract a liquid form of tobacoo, then we heat the liquid in a device into a vapor, which you then inhale"
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Actually I believe so... they were exploring hookah 2.0 type things, and ways to use vaping as a new lease on life. Also tobacco patches. They were (and are) super desperate. So far sustained developing world tobacco use is keeping them alive.
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