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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Feb 2018
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      I don’t think noting that Kim Jong-Un’s sister beats Pence on TV charisma counts as supporting North Korea over the US. It’s merely observing skill at optics.

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    2. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale 12 Feb 2018
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      That is framing it oddly- Pence has bad optics precisely because many of the people whose job it is to write about his optics are predisposed to hate him. And it is strange that the bias isn’t stronger against a leading figure in the cruelest regime in the world.

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    3. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale 12 Feb 2018
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      I have seen studies that the bias against almost in-groups is stronger than against far out-groups. So it is not that weird, at least not until we look at the results where people are praising representatives of a totalitarian regime.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Feb 2018
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      There’s a difference between praising skills or even looks, and praising people or ideologies. The Olympics is about appreciating the skills of rivals after all What we’re seeing here is an attempt to manufacture patriotism purity tests around support for an unpopular politician

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    5. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale 12 Feb 2018
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      Pence’s optics weren’t notable. Most of the people I see commenting find it more noteworthy that many different journalists and editors seemed to be positively portraying a high level official of a slave country. You attribute more to optics what others attribute more to bias.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Feb 2018
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      The N Koreans mounted a charm offensive using an attractive woman. That's worth reporting for same reason a military offensive is. Could increase probability of either war or peace. The US offered a sullen, ineffective, charmless political presence. That's worth reporting too.

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    7. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale 12 Feb 2018
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      That is approximately true. Pence is a placeholder, US charm apparently comes from churro eating athletes. Issue w/reporting is context that Jong-yo is at the head of a slave state and her cheerleaders and their families would be tortured if they misbehaved was largely left out.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 12 Feb 2018
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      I don't think it was left out. That's been widely publicized to the extent evidence was obtainable. Assad is a better example of that kinda bad of failure. My main point here is the effort to co-opt this into a patriotism test

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        2. Jeff Lonsdale‏ @JeffLonsdale 12 Feb 2018
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          Okay, I haven’t seen it presented as “be pro-admin/US” but have seen lots of “be anti-country with concentration camps”. I can believe the former is happening more outside of my filter bubble. (The Olympics often seems to bring up patriotism tests.)

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          It is in my feed And the latter is dumb. You can't infer support for country with concentration camps that way. If the US officially cared, Trump would have boycotted like Moscow 1980

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