Urdu speakers: is the word gumraah (lost) arabic or farsi root?
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Replying to @vgr
Here's an interesting reference to gumrah (more like a single a though) -- a "glowing coal" :pic.twitter.com/BUFdoAIuGS
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Replying to @startuployalist
That sounds like a different word. AFAIK in Urdu at least, gum- is always a lost/unknown prefix (gumrah =lost, gumnaam= anonymous etc).
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Replying to @vgr @startuployalist
yup here's what my Urdu dictionary says for gum-rah, as well as some surrounding gum- words in same sense (unf doesn't show the specific root):pic.twitter.com/1FLxHwncIW
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Definitely not Arabic, but it _may_ have entered Hindi through Persian although the root exists both for Avestan and Sanskrit ("gam" lost, missing, disappeared"). Reminder that the parent languages of modern Persian and Hindi (Avesan/Sanskrit) are very much related.
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Based on these words you posted: "gum-nam, gum-rah" etc I am inclined to believe these came directly from Persian, and not through Sanskrit. Gum - lost (Persian) naam - name (Persian) rah - route, path (Persian) Reminder that Persian was a major language spoken in the region.
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Yeah, that much is obvious at least to native Hindi speakers. It’s rarely difficult to tell Sanskrit and non-Sanskrit words apart, they have a distinctly different feel somehow.
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