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    1. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      ... training programs for everything from door knocking and phone banking to being a citizen witness to ICE raids. The problem is not lack of activity on the ground, but the kind of angle these guys (I use the word advisedly) want to find.

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    2. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      Witness the contrast between the breathless coverage of the tea party movement (even the loony fringe) vs. the way they're covering this resistance. I wonder what the difference might be. </sarcasm>

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Jan 2018
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      I think the narrative here is fundamentally weaker. There is a central character (“woman”) and an energy (which shows up as takedowns of specific men, like Weinstein, or institutions), but no overall plot. The Tea Party had a story (constitutional originalism initially).

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    4. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      Tell me why you think "constitutional originalism" is a plot, but women's rights is not.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Jan 2018
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      And note, to take the NYT as an example, there’s been endless op-eds, exposes, coverage. The only thing missing has been a grand narrative. Without that, there’s no way to trace diff between the 2017 and 2018 other than stats of number of women running, number of men taken down

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    6. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      Number of men taken down has nothing to do with anything. If you're referring to #meToo if there's more awareness and resistance to blatant exploitation and power plays, that's the win. Hard to measure, but easy to perceive.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Jan 2018
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      In the absence of a natural story, the only thing people can do is keep some sort of score. Men taken down, seats won in Congress under a banner. #Occupy had the same problem. It’s why “movements” on the Left generally gain less traction than on the Right. Cf. Lakoff model

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    8. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      Modern Conservatism has little to do with what Lakoff was trying to explain. The problem here is simple: "Equal rights for women" isn't a "natural story" for so many. (Making my own reproductive decisions and getting equal pay for equal work seem pretty natural to me).

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      For example, “equal rights” doesn’t work because it actually is not big enough. It contemplates a small change within the patriarchy. The very idea of “rights” would need to be refactored in a feminist way. What would “rights” mean if women ran the world?

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    10. Nisha Pillai‏ @nishaspillai 21 Jan 2018
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      I see. I don't subscribe to this idea that a huge intellectual proof of concept has to be presented "for and by women" for any change to be made. I'll take reproductive rights and equal pay right now, thanks.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Jan 2018
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      It doesn’t have to be a huge proof-of-concept, just a credible signal of desire and intent to get to a full successor to the patriarchy. You can of course limit mission as you like, but then the laws of narrative gravity will kick in to judge whether the story makes sense

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