No serious and consequential debates are decided like that, by definition. Your examples are?
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Let me flip the question around for you. What serious and consequential debates were decided by one side admitting the other side was right and getting on board? (as opposed to just quitting the conversation)
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yes, this is a special case of that
End of conversation
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If the goal of the debate is not changing the world via winning the propaganda war of ideas and the topic has any practical relevance, you may also win by exploiting the information differential to the side that is stuck with the worse model.
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