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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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    We're entering Vietnam of gender wars. Men will continue losing while biological-determinism ideology limits our ability to reimagine relationships with women in win-win ways that cedes *relative* political agency to bank absolute gains for all, without seeing it as emasculation.

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        They are not, but neither does biology limit the patterns for male-female relationships to a traditional few.

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        Biological determinism is specifically the naive pop-genetics-bullshit belief that biology determines gender relations rather than underdetermining it and creating a direction for indefinite further evolution

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      2. Matt Siegel‏ @mattsiegel 10 Nov 2017
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        it's going to be okay; a vocal minority of delightful queer people will pull us all along into a better future :)

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        Nice sentiment but they won't. The main cis-hetero battle is too big

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        Sorry but absolutely disagree. You're failing to see past a few toxic recent battles to the massive opening up of possibilities attributable to 150 years of feminism. Starting with the stunning humanism of women entering the workforce en masse, doubling civilizational potential.

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      1. analog fantasies‏ @jcarterharrison 10 Nov 2017
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        Is this what you see irl or just an extrapolation from US culture wars? I'm more hopeful

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I'd rather have humanity go extinct than have one half coercively treat the other half as a no-agency pop of forced breeders. THAT is a perspective that smacks of financialism: perpetuating male-dominated institutions is a higher priority than letting all humans live full lives

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        Disagree. You view women as a fertility number, not humans who might choose to do something else with their lives. I didn't bring up economics, you did. Civilizational potential is not economic potential, but breeding as a top priority IS economics

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        One big signal is what most women are saying about their condition and how they want it to evolve. Some choose traditional patterns, but many do not. You choose not to listen to them and believe they are misguided. Try taking them at their word about how they want to live.

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I dare you to get a majority of women to agree in a representative sample poll

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      3. mark safranski‏ @zenpundit 10 Nov 2017
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        A majority won’t accept the feminist label - which indicates the current authoritarian and adversarial version of the ideology lacks much appeal outside the elite

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