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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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    We're entering Vietnam of gender wars. Men will continue losing while biological-determinism ideology limits our ability to reimagine relationships with women in win-win ways that cedes *relative* political agency to bank absolute gains for all, without seeing it as emasculation.

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I dare you to get a majority of women to agree in a representative sample poll

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      3. mark safranski‏ @zenpundit 10 Nov 2017
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        A majority won’t accept the feminist label - which indicates the current authoritarian and adversarial version of the ideology lacks much appeal outside the elite

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        What does that tell you about right dominated ones? There's fewer women in them, and they are likely less able to speak out. Wald effect applies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Wald …

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        In the military women near universally experience it. NotAllMen, YesAllWomen. If their numbers grow to Hollywood levels, there'd be no difference.

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        Sorry but absolutely disagree. You're failing to see past a few toxic recent battles to the massive opening up of possibilities attributable to 150 years of feminism. Starting with the stunning humanism of women entering the workforce en masse, doubling civilizational potential.

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I'd rather have humanity go extinct than have one half coercively treat the other half as a no-agency pop of forced breeders. THAT is a perspective that smacks of financialism: perpetuating male-dominated institutions is a higher priority than letting all humans live full lives

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        They are not, but neither does biology limit the patterns for male-female relationships to a traditional few.

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I prefer they choose what to do with their abilities, whether or not they make money, and whether or not they do so in the home or in the wider world of work. Being an unpaid amateur athlete setting records while supported by a working husband counts as "entering workforce"

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      1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 10 Nov 2017
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        I'm out of energy but I'll close on this one. It's interesting that you don't even question why 2 of those choices are explicitly "work for men". If top leaders were as likely to be women this would be a complete non-question. Ergo still a need for feminism.

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        Biological determinism is specifically the naive pop-genetics-bullshit belief that biology determines gender relations rather than underdetermining it and creating a direction for indefinite further evolution

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