37/ In between we have Jung, which would be some obscure thing about sadism being really about torturing your own shadow, a kind of growth
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38/ And finally, the Buddhist version, which is kinda similar to Jung in spirit. You'd say desire is the root of all pain
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39/ My assessment: pathology theory is only true for tiny fraction of spectrum of pleasure-from-pain behaviors
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40/ The Darwinian explanation is null hypothesis that I think explains the majority of cases. This is "normal" adaptive pleasure-from-pain
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41/ The Jungian explanation probably covers most of what we could consider consensual S&M relationships and many martial arts
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42/ And finally, Buddhist explanation I think only explains mutants who *don't* want to cause pain and uncomplicatedly seek to avoid it
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43/ There are subtleties. For eg, the story of Angulimala, a sadist serial-killing thug who converted to Buddhism
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44/ But such exceptions aside, I think Buddhism is a pain philosophy for natural-borns who actually don't feel the desire pain asexuals
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45/ Part 1 of my tweetstorm could be called "The civilizational project of/for/by natural-born Buddhists is misguided."
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46/ Let's talk prescriptions. The prescription for the Darwinian explanation is: do nothing, we like it this way even if we don't admit it.
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48/ Prescription for Jungian theory is a pain market. Match people in consensual, level-matched mutual pain-relationships. Aka marriage 😆
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49/ But supply/demand may be mismatched at transactional, macro levels. ∫(pain sought to be inflicted) >> ∫(pain sought to be experienced)
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