30/ If you treat desire to cause pain as a pathology and non-harm-causing, you will look for "deviant" conditions that cause this desire
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41/ The Jungian explanation probably covers most of what we could consider consensual S&M relationships and many martial arts
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42/ And finally, Buddhist explanation I think only explains mutants who *don't* want to cause pain and uncomplicatedly seek to avoid it
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I’d say that desire for dominance/status in your mammal group is the true normal and pain is just a historically effective strategy.
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And that historically hierarchy was purely based on dominance; some attempt to redefine the status hierarchy based on pain minimization; but
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