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27/ In part 1 we saw how a civilizational project based on the aspiration to not cause unnecessary pain was possibly incoherent
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28/ Let's assume majority of humans (not including you and me of course) derive pleasure from causing/witnessing pain as a condition of life
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30/ If you treat desire to cause pain as a pathology and non-harm-causing, you will look for "deviant" conditions that cause this desire
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32/ Let's also set aside societal-functional value if any, such as pain caused for deterrence purposes. These don't need pleasure to justify
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33/ So we are talking causing/witnessing pain for pleasure, with moralizing and deterrence theories applied to justify/rationalize it
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