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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      9/ We are raised to believe only small % ("criminals") _want_ to cause pain for gain. Most don't. A few saints suffer for others (top left)

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      10/ Shades of red theory asserts that majority - everybody to right of "apathetic" - gets off on others' unnecessary pain at least a little

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      11/ Shades of red is based on a deontological notion of evil -- finding pleasure in causing/witnessing pain. Good is negatively defined.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      12/ By this theory, most "good" people are actual bad: they define "evil" to dehumanize, to justify causing pain for pleasure

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      13/ Our penal system implicitly assumes shades-of-red theory. Prison guards and cops I suspect have at least a small streak of sadism.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      14/ Stanford prison experiments: almost all of us are capable of finding pleasure in causing/witnessing pain

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      15/ If this is true, my original definition of civilizing project is nonsensical and most people are NOT on board with it

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      16/ Worse, most moral philosophy is obsessed with defining evil primarily to find targets for justifiable pain-causing.

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      17/ Enemies give life meaning and purpose. Moralizing is overtly about trying to do good, but covertly about prepping victims for pain

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      18/ The most common form is NIMBYism/tribalism. For many, the ingroup is _formed_ in order to create an outgroup it's ok to hate and hurt

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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      19/ As a mostly-apathetic, I only came very reluctantly to this conclusion: that many actively enjoy causing/witnessing pain

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 29 Jul 2017
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          20/ It's an ugly theory of humans, but unfortunately very plausible evolutionarily. Finding pleasure in pain is adaptive in scarcity.

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        3. Dorian Taylor‏ @doriantaylor 29 Jul 2017
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          now imagining a scalar field of schadenfreude schadenfield theory

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        1. Fred Boggs‏ @wotsac 29 Jul 2017
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          As a more nearly good sam, I assert that the only way to make progress is to acknowledge the truth but rely on the noble rhetoric of civ

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