4/ Ie we assume that most people *try* to be good in our sense, but complexity and moral ambiguities of world defeats them. Is this true?
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15/ If this is true, my original definition of civilizing project is nonsensical and most people are NOT on board with it
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16/ Worse, most moral philosophy is obsessed with defining evil primarily to find targets for justifiable pain-causing.
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What's your source on anybody extracting pleasure in the SPE? AFAIR, there's no such conclusion supported by that experiment.
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