1/ Let's define civilization as as an aspirational state where there is no need to intentionally cause pain to others to get what you want
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are "just deserts" "unnecessary"?
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can this tendency be channeled into constructive processes?
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11/ Shades of red is based on a deontological notion of evil -- finding pleasure in causing/witnessing pain. Good is negatively defined.
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12/ By this theory, most "good" people are actual bad: they define "evil" to dehumanize, to justify causing pain for pleasure
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