2/ If "good" is defined as people generally on board with civilizing process (ie don't want to cause needless pain), what % of us are good?
1/ Let's define civilization as as an aspirational state where there is no need to intentionally cause pain to others to get what you want
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3/ In answering this q we tend to replace moral absolutes of good/evil with shades of grey, to acknowledge complexity of trying to be good
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Wut?
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My point is the orientational aspect is secondary to actual desire to cause pain
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My guess: he's dissing your definition of civilization while being deliberately obscure.
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He took your 'Wut' comment as understanding his obscure statement, lacking only a specific fault w/def of civilization, & not a general wtf.
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Too bad "civilization" can't stand to the Mongol army...
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Why define civilization this way? It seems unnecessarily Hobbesian. Other options might be productive capacity, epistemic law, etc.
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this seems to be one of the few defns where you cannot rationalise "some must suffer for the good of all"
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Protect implies a mental model of those who seek to "attack" it, and a response to their perceived behaviors/states/actions
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