1/ Let's define civilization as as an aspirational state where there is no need to intentionally cause pain to others to get what you want
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2/ If "good" is defined as people generally on board with civilizing process (ie don't want to cause needless pain), what % of us are good?
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3/ In answering this q we tend to replace moral absolutes of good/evil with shades of grey, to acknowledge complexity of trying to be good
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My point is the orientational aspect is secondary to actual desire to cause pain
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Protect implies a mental model of those who seek to "attack" it, and a response to their perceived behaviors/states/actions
My guess: he's dissing your definition of civilization while being deliberately obscure.
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