you're arguing very basic tech determinism vs social determinism you realize?
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Replying to @vgr @turrible_tao
see this for my synthesis that I think reflects how the chicken-egg evolution actually workshttp://breakingsmart.com/en/season-1/the-principle-of-generative-pluralism/ …
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Replying to @vgr @turrible_tao
tech determinism and social determinism are standard ways of talking about these things... there's Wikipedia entries on them
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Replying to @vgr
I was giving dumbed down example of how general improvement frees up better morality but ppl might confuse causality
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Replying to @turrible_tao
yes, that's tech determinism! Causality often but not always, works that way. Values can evolve first and cause tech evol too
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Replying to @turrible_tao
feminism/suffrage --> women in workforce during WWII --> any innovation they made
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Replying to @vgr
that wasnt values that was necessity, also poor woman have always worked
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Replying to @turrible_tao @vgr
the value of woman working too didnt precede that it was a war
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Replying to @turrible_tao
I could do this infinite regress all day, which should suggest there's chicken-egg feedback loop between values and evolution
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narrative anchoring is powerful. Once you see more in somebody than others do, and help bring it out. They change reality.
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