Oddly enough, d-bags who talk that way are usually omegas, not alphas. High status types establish status via verbal violence on other *men*
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This thing is fuel for gender wars beyond election. No obvious way to demonstrate to women that this is not in fact normal locker room talk.
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Most women don't need someone to explain to them that some guys are jerks. Having men stand up to say "This is gross & wrong" matters.
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I'd like to believe that, but I've heard more than few women say things equivalent to 'male culture in private is all rapey'
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What else are we to believe, when instead of guys standing up to say "Holy shit dude! Not ok." we are told how we should perceive it.
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I've sat at tables w/guys having painfully similar conversations. Fortunately I have enough good guys around to know that's isolated
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most guys don't talk like that. But most guys also won't challenge it unless it is a sister/wife/mother in question.
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Thus why women believe it. They're hearing the talk and none of the challenge. I'm fiercely angry when I hear guys put in this box.
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since challenges can escalate to physical fights, few would risk it unless there was actually a women at risk right them
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