I think we also sincerely don't care as much about "face"
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more comprehensive? covering larger envelope of behaviors?
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yeah it's social dark matter that's not seen or acknowledged. Talking about it all the time like in Asia reduces impact.
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Impact of individualism—where group shame requires more discussion?
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general proposition on my part is that the norm applies in more situations than in asia, other things being equal
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there are like a dozen words in hindi/urdu for expressing various forms of 'I was mortified/humiliated/embarrased'
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which means you actually admit it in more situations... but there are equivalents in more archaic english
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